Comments on: Alright then, Xinjiang *is* that bad: A Place of Exile http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/ a blog about xinjiang Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:56:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: wgj http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3729 wgj Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:09:50 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3729 In an interview with Deutsche Welle (Germany's international broadcasting), He says he doesn't consider actually himself "exiled": http://www.deutsche-welle.de/dw/article/0,,4105546,00.html In an interview with Deutsche Welle (Germany’s international broadcasting), He says he doesn’t consider actually himself “exiled”:

http://www.deutsche-welle.de/dw/article/0,,4105546,00.html

]]> By: james http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3712 james Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:39:38 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3712 Can original XPCC members be thought of as exiles? I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in this post. Definitely worth a read in regard the 'exilic' is Joanna-Waley Cohen's "Exile in Mid-Qing China: Banishment to Xinjiang, 1758-1820." (Yale Historical Publications, 1991). This was a process outworked in XJ that had precedents during earlier dynasties. Banishment to Xinjiang from Inner China during the Great Cultural Revolution was also in vogue. Internal banishment within Xinjiang also occurred during the CR. For example, sending intellectuals from Urumqi to places like the bottom of the Turpan Depression around Ayding kol, to work making bricks etc. Can original XPCC members be thought of as exiles?

I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned in this post. Definitely worth a read in regard the ‘exilic’ is Joanna-Waley Cohen’s

“Exile in Mid-Qing China: Banishment to Xinjiang, 1758-1820.” (Yale Historical Publications, 1991).

This was a process outworked in XJ that had precedents during earlier dynasties.

Banishment to Xinjiang from Inner China during the Great Cultural Revolution was also in vogue. Internal banishment within Xinjiang also occurred during the CR. For example, sending intellectuals from Urumqi to places like the bottom of the Turpan Depression around Ayding kol, to work making bricks etc.

]]> By: swan http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3710 swan Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:47:31 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3710 Sorry Porfiriy, guess i need glasses now lol! actually what i had wanted to know was the bit about muslim soldiers in XPCC,i always thought the XPCC consisted of Communists. Sorry Porfiriy, guess i need glasses now lol!
actually what i had wanted to know was the bit about muslim soldiers in XPCC,i always thought the XPCC consisted of Communists.

]]> By: Porfiriy http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3709 Porfiriy Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:09:46 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3709 Swan, I wrote a list, punctuated by commas: 1. guomindang soldiers, 2. Muslims solders who formerly served the ill-fated East Turkestan Republic, 3. and other political personas non grata.So no, that's not what I mean. Swan, I wrote a list, punctuated by commas: 1. guomindang soldiers, 2. Muslims solders who formerly served the ill-fated East Turkestan Republic, 3. and other political personas non grata.So no, that’s not what I mean.

]]> By: Dostim http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3707 Dostim Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:58:45 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3707 Excellent piece. Also worth noting Wang Meng, sent to XJ for re-education in '63 after being labeled a rightist. He wrote extensively on his experiences -- mostly fondly, learned the Uyghur language, and is generally respected by Uyghurs (at least the ones with whom I've spoken). After being rehabilitated post-Mao, WM served as China's Minister of Culture. A great book for those familiar with his story and his work: http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Xinjiang-Cultural-China-Land/dp/0762106395 Excellent piece. Also worth noting Wang Meng, sent to XJ for re-education in ’63 after being labeled a rightist. He wrote extensively on his experiences — mostly fondly, learned the Uyghur language, and is generally respected by Uyghurs (at least the ones with whom I’ve spoken). After being rehabilitated post-Mao, WM served as China’s Minister of Culture.

A great book for those familiar with his story and his work:

http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Xinjiang-Cultural-China-Land/dp/0762106395

]]> By: swan http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3703 swan Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3703 "Faced with the problem of dealing with tens of thousands of former guomindang soldiers, Muslim soldiers who formerly served the ill-fated East Turkestan Republic , and other political personas non grata, the CCP rounded everyone up, dubbed them the XPCC" You don't mean guomindang soldiers were Muslim soldiers do you? “Faced with the problem of dealing with tens of thousands of former guomindang soldiers, Muslim soldiers who formerly served the ill-fated East Turkestan Republic , and other political personas non grata, the CCP rounded everyone up, dubbed them the XPCC”
You don’t mean guomindang soldiers were Muslim soldiers do you?

]]> By: Josh http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/comment-page-1/#comment-3699 Josh Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:49:29 +0000 http://www.thenewdominion.net/688/alright-then-xinjiang-is-that-bad-a-place-of-exile/#comment-3699 Great follow-up article. I think it's a shame that the word "exile" is being used so much in association with this story. Sure, being sent to Shihezi isn't a vacation, but I consider it more of a terrible "demotion" rather than an "exile". This story you linked to in the Telegraph does a terrible disservice to Xinjiang when it links it with "exile". Too bad. Great follow-up article. I think it’s a shame that the word “exile” is being used so much in association with this story. Sure, being sent to Shihezi isn’t a vacation, but I consider it more of a terrible “demotion” rather than an “exile”.

This story you linked to in the Telegraph does a terrible disservice to Xinjiang when it links it with “exile”. Too bad.

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