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		<title>By: Leong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beway, for what i know, Tibetans waged some wars against China in Tang Dynasty. But since when had Uyghurs wage wars against China and for &quot;centuries?&quot; Regardless how many times Turpan Uyghurs assisted Beijing quelling rebellions.You must know the Emin Hoja Tower. Just tell me history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beway, for what i know, Tibetans waged some wars against China in Tang Dynasty. But since when had Uyghurs wage wars against China and for &#8220;centuries?&#8221; Regardless how many times Turpan Uyghurs assisted Beijing quelling rebellions.You must know the Emin Hoja Tower. Just tell me history.</p>
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		<title>By: kahraman</title>
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		<dc:creator>kahraman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 22:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Beway  大汉主义？</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Beway  大汉主义？</p>
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		<title>By: Beway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame it on the Uyghurs for being hell-bent for creating problems in their own country.   It&#039;s not arecent fact that Uyghurs are trouble makers but throughout history, Uyghurs like Tibetans are barbaric normads who constantly waged war against China for centuries.   Pity them, haha, pity my foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame it on the Uyghurs for being hell-bent for creating problems in their own country.   It&#8217;s not arecent fact that Uyghurs are trouble makers but throughout history, Uyghurs like Tibetans are barbaric normads who constantly waged war against China for centuries.   Pity them, haha, pity my foot.</p>
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		<title>By: kahraman</title>
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		<dc:creator>kahraman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In considering Tohti&#039;s response to this travel ban, it should be kept in mind that he is a member of the Chinese Communist Party.  I did not see that mentioned in the comments.  This also explains his willingness to work within the confines of the current political/legal system.  He has thrown his lot in with that system.

By the way, excellent response by Porfiriy above....very eloquently put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In considering Tohti&#8217;s response to this travel ban, it should be kept in mind that he is a member of the Chinese Communist Party.  I did not see that mentioned in the comments.  This also explains his willingness to work within the confines of the current political/legal system.  He has thrown his lot in with that system.</p>
<p>By the way, excellent response by Porfiriy above&#8230;.very eloquently put.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Halida. Thanks a lot for this comment. very interesting. Please keep writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Halida. Thanks a lot for this comment. very interesting. Please keep writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Halida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not only Ilham Tohti, Chinese government has collected all the passports belong to Uyghurs in Xinjiang - which is against any law on the earth. Only Uyghurs living places other than Xinjiang can hold hold their passports in hand. (Ilham Tohti is living in Beijing). There are many thing in Xinjiang against law of China for example one can not go to pilgrim on his own way, he/she has to join a government organized pilgrim group which is strictly controlled/monitored during all the travel/stay in abroad, furthermore it is extremely hard to get into the group as the numbers are limited people applying are much more than the allowed group size, which forces people to try all the means to get into the list, most effective way is to bribe officers who approves the list. 
The list of illegal activities opted by government is numberless - like fining, detaining, torching... most of the people get used to it , some other people opted to going abroad while very few people like Ilham Tohti trying to communicate with Han Chinese people and Chinese government in an intellectual way to make them to understand the hardships that Uyghurs faced , and improper handling of issues regarding Uyghurs.
I am not sure how much can they change the situation but at least they can clarify one thing: are the central government has authorized Xinjiang government to mishandle Uyghurs or its merely actions taken by local government in Xinjiang???

After brainwashed for many many years significant number of people believe the central government is quite good , it is the local government who is cheating the higher authority and pressing the people in Xinjiang, there are some reasons made them think like that.
1. many good policies announced by central government took years to get implemented in Xinjiang. Partly this may because of the bureaucracy in China partly because local government is just delaying the implementation of those policies as many policies requires local government to spend from their oven expenses, which may create difficulties for the local government and reduce share of corrupted government officers can get. 
2. almost everyone knows that statistics which local government feeds to central government is false such as improvement of the life standard, income, spending on education and improving peoples life. 
3. each time when high officials from central government come to Xinjiang due to crises in Xinjiang such as earthquake, the ethnic clash happened last year, they express their concern and surprise of the economical and political situation of Xinjiang, and they promise to improve something or give something to people of Xinjiang, this makes people think central government does not really understand the hardship people are facing in Xinjiang, and local government is just feeding good news to Beijing and hiding bad ones to show their ability.
4. When a person tries to go to Beijing for appeal their cases, local government tries very hard to get hold him in Xinjiang using all means such as fining, threatening , forbidding him travel or even even detaining or arresting him with any fabricated crime such as &quot;destroying harmony of society&quot;. So many people think local government is hiding these things from central government, central government might give a fair deal if the case can reach them. When the traditional houses demolished in Hotan and Kashgar many people stand up against it initially, later on they have compromised with local authority after number of people detained, arrested, beat....

To me, obviously its a &quot;white face and red face&quot; game, central government plays a &quot;white face&quot; - always polite, helpful and soft, local government plays &quot;red face&quot; - arrogant, ignorant and cruel, with combination of cheating and beating they rule the people in Xinjiang.

What Ilham Tohti doing is useful for unmasking this dirty game and getting attention of those Chinese officials who might have some soul say &quot;look we might have a look to Xinjiang from diffirent angle&quot;.
Besides Ilham Tohti is trying his best to open channels to the Han Chinese to understand Uyghurs and situation in Xinjiang. 
Most of the Chinese people say Uyghurs (the same goes to Tibetans)are uneducated, rude and un-thankful to the minority-friendly policies and huge investment Chinese government has done in Xinjiang, half of those saying so are just doing it because they are irresponsible and inconsiderate as long as they can have better life, half of those saying so are just doing it because they are lack of knowledge of the real situation. There should be a person who tell them the truth, this is where Ilham Tohti fits in. 

I have visited his website and found many useful facts and glad to know whatever he said is based on facts and statistics, many Uyghurs say he is mediocre and soft, but maybe thats why he can stay out of prison telling the truth that others in Xinjiang cannot say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not only Ilham Tohti, Chinese government has collected all the passports belong to Uyghurs in Xinjiang &#8211; which is against any law on the earth. Only Uyghurs living places other than Xinjiang can hold hold their passports in hand. (Ilham Tohti is living in Beijing). There are many thing in Xinjiang against law of China for example one can not go to pilgrim on his own way, he/she has to join a government organized pilgrim group which is strictly controlled/monitored during all the travel/stay in abroad, furthermore it is extremely hard to get into the group as the numbers are limited people applying are much more than the allowed group size, which forces people to try all the means to get into the list, most effective way is to bribe officers who approves the list.<br />
The list of illegal activities opted by government is numberless &#8211; like fining, detaining, torching&#8230; most of the people get used to it , some other people opted to going abroad while very few people like Ilham Tohti trying to communicate with Han Chinese people and Chinese government in an intellectual way to make them to understand the hardships that Uyghurs faced , and improper handling of issues regarding Uyghurs.<br />
I am not sure how much can they change the situation but at least they can clarify one thing: are the central government has authorized Xinjiang government to mishandle Uyghurs or its merely actions taken by local government in Xinjiang???</p>
<p>After brainwashed for many many years significant number of people believe the central government is quite good , it is the local government who is cheating the higher authority and pressing the people in Xinjiang, there are some reasons made them think like that.<br />
1. many good policies announced by central government took years to get implemented in Xinjiang. Partly this may because of the bureaucracy in China partly because local government is just delaying the implementation of those policies as many policies requires local government to spend from their oven expenses, which may create difficulties for the local government and reduce share of corrupted government officers can get.<br />
2. almost everyone knows that statistics which local government feeds to central government is false such as improvement of the life standard, income, spending on education and improving peoples life.<br />
3. each time when high officials from central government come to Xinjiang due to crises in Xinjiang such as earthquake, the ethnic clash happened last year, they express their concern and surprise of the economical and political situation of Xinjiang, and they promise to improve something or give something to people of Xinjiang, this makes people think central government does not really understand the hardship people are facing in Xinjiang, and local government is just feeding good news to Beijing and hiding bad ones to show their ability.<br />
4. When a person tries to go to Beijing for appeal their cases, local government tries very hard to get hold him in Xinjiang using all means such as fining, threatening , forbidding him travel or even even detaining or arresting him with any fabricated crime such as &#8220;destroying harmony of society&#8221;. So many people think local government is hiding these things from central government, central government might give a fair deal if the case can reach them. When the traditional houses demolished in Hotan and Kashgar many people stand up against it initially, later on they have compromised with local authority after number of people detained, arrested, beat&#8230;.</p>
<p>To me, obviously its a &#8220;white face and red face&#8221; game, central government plays a &#8220;white face&#8221; &#8211; always polite, helpful and soft, local government plays &#8220;red face&#8221; &#8211; arrogant, ignorant and cruel, with combination of cheating and beating they rule the people in Xinjiang.</p>
<p>What Ilham Tohti doing is useful for unmasking this dirty game and getting attention of those Chinese officials who might have some soul say &#8220;look we might have a look to Xinjiang from diffirent angle&#8221;.<br />
Besides Ilham Tohti is trying his best to open channels to the Han Chinese to understand Uyghurs and situation in Xinjiang.<br />
Most of the Chinese people say Uyghurs (the same goes to Tibetans)are uneducated, rude and un-thankful to the minority-friendly policies and huge investment Chinese government has done in Xinjiang, half of those saying so are just doing it because they are irresponsible and inconsiderate as long as they can have better life, half of those saying so are just doing it because they are lack of knowledge of the real situation. There should be a person who tell them the truth, this is where Ilham Tohti fits in. </p>
<p>I have visited his website and found many useful facts and glad to know whatever he said is based on facts and statistics, many Uyghurs say he is mediocre and soft, but maybe thats why he can stay out of prison telling the truth that others in Xinjiang cannot say.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear everyone&#039;s views. 

Neat web site. Keep it up!</description>
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<p>Neat web site. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Mihray Abdilim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihray Abdilim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uyghur Scholar Slams Exit Ban
2010-04-28
A leading economist says he is saddened that China bars scholars from traveling.

 
RFA

Ilham Tohti in France, February 2009.
HONG KONG—An ethnic Uyghur scholar based in Beijing has lashed out in an open letter and an interview at Chinese authorities for preventing him from traveling to Turkey to deliver a lecture.

Ilham Tohti, an outspoken economist who has often clashed openly with Chinese authorities, accused Beijing of operating “in flagrant violation of the law to maintain ‘social order.’”

But by eroding what is fair and just, Chinese authorities are causing greater harm to the country’s social fabric, he said in the letter, published on his Web site, www.uyghurbiz.net, which is blocked inside China.

Tohti had received a visa and permission from Central Nationalities University in Beijing, where he teaches, to attend an April 19-25 academic conference in Turkey, along with four other Uyghur academics from the Xinjiang regional capital, Urumqi.

But Chinese authorities accompanied him on a “vacation” to the resort island of Hainan, in southern China, and prevented him from leaving the country days ahead of the event, he said.

They feared what he might tell the foreign media about how the government has treated him, Tohti said.

The conference was an international panel on Turkic culture at Ege University in Izmir, Turkey. The identities of the other four Uyghur scholars barred from leaving the country weren&#039;t available.

‘Very sad’

“I’m very sad—not only because I am unable to attend the meeting to present my article, but because the Chinese government does not trust scholars,” Tohti said in an interview.

“Even [majority] Han Chinese scholars are refused the right to travel outside of the country to present their work.”

Tohti, who holds a valid Chinese passport, said in his open letter that according to China’s Law on Civil Rules of Exit and Entry, authorities may refuse exit or entry only to Chinese citizens who hold invalid, altered, or forged travel documents.

The Chinese Constitution prohibits “unlawful detention and other means of illegal deprivation or restriction of personal freedom of its citizens.”

“I am a citizen in possession of proper identification, and the government has no factual or legal basis to prohibit me from leaving the country—this is clearly illegal,” Tohti said.

Tohti said he had received invitations to seminars in Hungary and the Netherlands during May, but his requests for permission to travel have gone unanswered.

“For now, I am continuing to work on a paper about Chinese policies towards the Uyghurs, and I hold lectures each week. But I am restricted to speaking at my own university and I am being carefully watched by [plainclothes] officers,” Tohti said. 

“I have tried to do what any moral citizen can do—what any socially responsible citizen can do. I will spare no effort to uphold my beliefs for the fair and just treatment of ethnic Uyghurs,” he said.

“I call on Uyghurs, Han Chinese, and our friends in other nations to respect the rule of law and human rights, and to respect themselves and others. Do your best to be dignified citizens!”

According to Qeyser Ozhun, president of the International Uyghur PEN Center, Tohti was also blocked last October from attending a PEN International conference in Norway, when police stopped him from obtaining a Norwegian visa in Beijing.

Detained and freed

In August, soon after deadly clashes between majority Han and minority Uyghurs in Urumqi, Tohti was released without charge after he was detained for allegedly promoting separatism, but he said police then visited his home to warn him he could still be tried and executed.

Tohti’s blog, Uyghur Online, publishes in Chinese and Uyghur and is widely seen as a moderate, intellectual Web site addressing social issues. Authorities have closed it on several previous occasions.

Uyghur Online was specifically targeted, along with exiled Uyghur leader Rebiya Kadeer, in a July 5 speech by the governor of Xinjiang, Nur Bekri, as an instigator of the clashes.

Tohti has said he was interrogated repeatedly and accused of separatism after he spoke out in March against Chinese policies in Xinjiang, particularly the disproportionately high unemployment there among Uyghurs compared with Han Chinese.

Millions of Uyghurs—a distinct, Turkic minority who are predominantly Muslim—populate Central Asia and the XUAR in northwestern China.

Ethnic tensions between Uyghurs and majority Han Chinese settlers have simmered for years, and erupted in July 2009 in rioting that left some 200 people dead, according to the Chinese government’s tally.

Uyghurs say they have long suffered ethnic discrimination, oppressive religious controls, and continued poverty and joblessness despite China&#039;s ambitious plans to develop its vast northwestern frontier.

Chinese authorities blame Uyghur separatists for a series of deadly attacks in recent years and accuse one group in particular of maintaining links to the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Original reporting by Mihray Abdilim for RFA’s Uyghur service. Uyghur service director: Dolkun Kamberi. Translated by Mihray Abdilim. Written for the Web in English by Joshua Lipes. Edited by Sarah Jackson-Han.


Copyright © 1998-2010 Radio Free Asia. All rights reserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uyghur Scholar Slams Exit Ban<br />
2010-04-28<br />
A leading economist says he is saddened that China bars scholars from traveling.</p>
<p>RFA</p>
<p>Ilham Tohti in France, February 2009.<br />
HONG KONG—An ethnic Uyghur scholar based in Beijing has lashed out in an open letter and an interview at Chinese authorities for preventing him from traveling to Turkey to deliver a lecture.</p>
<p>Ilham Tohti, an outspoken economist who has often clashed openly with Chinese authorities, accused Beijing of operating “in flagrant violation of the law to maintain ‘social order.’”</p>
<p>But by eroding what is fair and just, Chinese authorities are causing greater harm to the country’s social fabric, he said in the letter, published on his Web site, <a href="http://www.uyghurbiz.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.uyghurbiz.net</a>, which is blocked inside China.</p>
<p>Tohti had received a visa and permission from Central Nationalities University in Beijing, where he teaches, to attend an April 19-25 academic conference in Turkey, along with four other Uyghur academics from the Xinjiang regional capital, Urumqi.</p>
<p>But Chinese authorities accompanied him on a “vacation” to the resort island of Hainan, in southern China, and prevented him from leaving the country days ahead of the event, he said.</p>
<p>They feared what he might tell the foreign media about how the government has treated him, Tohti said.</p>
<p>The conference was an international panel on Turkic culture at Ege University in Izmir, Turkey. The identities of the other four Uyghur scholars barred from leaving the country weren&#8217;t available.</p>
<p>‘Very sad’</p>
<p>“I’m very sad—not only because I am unable to attend the meeting to present my article, but because the Chinese government does not trust scholars,” Tohti said in an interview.</p>
<p>“Even [majority] Han Chinese scholars are refused the right to travel outside of the country to present their work.”</p>
<p>Tohti, who holds a valid Chinese passport, said in his open letter that according to China’s Law on Civil Rules of Exit and Entry, authorities may refuse exit or entry only to Chinese citizens who hold invalid, altered, or forged travel documents.</p>
<p>The Chinese Constitution prohibits “unlawful detention and other means of illegal deprivation or restriction of personal freedom of its citizens.”</p>
<p>“I am a citizen in possession of proper identification, and the government has no factual or legal basis to prohibit me from leaving the country—this is clearly illegal,” Tohti said.</p>
<p>Tohti said he had received invitations to seminars in Hungary and the Netherlands during May, but his requests for permission to travel have gone unanswered.</p>
<p>“For now, I am continuing to work on a paper about Chinese policies towards the Uyghurs, and I hold lectures each week. But I am restricted to speaking at my own university and I am being carefully watched by [plainclothes] officers,” Tohti said. </p>
<p>“I have tried to do what any moral citizen can do—what any socially responsible citizen can do. I will spare no effort to uphold my beliefs for the fair and just treatment of ethnic Uyghurs,” he said.</p>
<p>“I call on Uyghurs, Han Chinese, and our friends in other nations to respect the rule of law and human rights, and to respect themselves and others. Do your best to be dignified citizens!”</p>
<p>According to Qeyser Ozhun, president of the International Uyghur PEN Center, Tohti was also blocked last October from attending a PEN International conference in Norway, when police stopped him from obtaining a Norwegian visa in Beijing.</p>
<p>Detained and freed</p>
<p>In August, soon after deadly clashes between majority Han and minority Uyghurs in Urumqi, Tohti was released without charge after he was detained for allegedly promoting separatism, but he said police then visited his home to warn him he could still be tried and executed.</p>
<p>Tohti’s blog, Uyghur Online, publishes in Chinese and Uyghur and is widely seen as a moderate, intellectual Web site addressing social issues. Authorities have closed it on several previous occasions.</p>
<p>Uyghur Online was specifically targeted, along with exiled Uyghur leader Rebiya Kadeer, in a July 5 speech by the governor of Xinjiang, Nur Bekri, as an instigator of the clashes.</p>
<p>Tohti has said he was interrogated repeatedly and accused of separatism after he spoke out in March against Chinese policies in Xinjiang, particularly the disproportionately high unemployment there among Uyghurs compared with Han Chinese.</p>
<p>Millions of Uyghurs—a distinct, Turkic minority who are predominantly Muslim—populate Central Asia and the XUAR in northwestern China.</p>
<p>Ethnic tensions between Uyghurs and majority Han Chinese settlers have simmered for years, and erupted in July 2009 in rioting that left some 200 people dead, according to the Chinese government’s tally.</p>
<p>Uyghurs say they have long suffered ethnic discrimination, oppressive religious controls, and continued poverty and joblessness despite China&#8217;s ambitious plans to develop its vast northwestern frontier.</p>
<p>Chinese authorities blame Uyghur separatists for a series of deadly attacks in recent years and accuse one group in particular of maintaining links to the al-Qaeda terrorist network.</p>
<p>Original reporting by Mihray Abdilim for RFA’s Uyghur service. Uyghur service director: Dolkun Kamberi. Translated by Mihray Abdilim. Written for the Web in English by Joshua Lipes. Edited by Sarah Jackson-Han.</p>
<p>Copyright © 1998-2010 Radio Free Asia. All rights reserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Porfiriy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porfiriy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on Tohti&#039;s travel ban from RFA published today: 

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/ban-04282010124306.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Tohti&#8217;s travel ban from RFA published today: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/ban-04282010124306.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/ban-04282010124306.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree with Porfiriy more due to his more nuanced understanding of the Uyghur situation IN China. 

Porfiriy is right that overseas Uyghur human rights discourse is &quot;disjointed&quot;. It is focusing too much on political agenda and ignoring the daily life of ordinary Uyghurs. Those guys are all outside China, but this is also a continuation of the gap and misunderstanding between Uyghur nationalists/intellectuals and peasants/merchants. 

Bruce, I kinda understand you flowing around those beautiful ideas like free speech. In reality, if Tohti said things like that, it could be interpreted as a challenged to Party rule. He might be thrown in jail, let alone going to Turkey. Also, PRC is not the only country that is wary of Pan Turkish sentiments. Russia, I believe, fears it more. So saying PRC rejects Tohti&#039;s application out of the fear of Pan Turkism is not well founded. 

The purpose of Tohti&#039; article is to get himself to Turkey, rather than toppling a regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with Porfiriy more due to his more nuanced understanding of the Uyghur situation IN China. </p>
<p>Porfiriy is right that overseas Uyghur human rights discourse is &#8220;disjointed&#8221;. It is focusing too much on political agenda and ignoring the daily life of ordinary Uyghurs. Those guys are all outside China, but this is also a continuation of the gap and misunderstanding between Uyghur nationalists/intellectuals and peasants/merchants. </p>
<p>Bruce, I kinda understand you flowing around those beautiful ideas like free speech. In reality, if Tohti said things like that, it could be interpreted as a challenged to Party rule. He might be thrown in jail, let alone going to Turkey. Also, PRC is not the only country that is wary of Pan Turkish sentiments. Russia, I believe, fears it more. So saying PRC rejects Tohti&#8217;s application out of the fear of Pan Turkism is not well founded. </p>
<p>The purpose of Tohti&#8217; article is to get himself to Turkey, rather than toppling a regime.</p>
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